Submission 298 — Neurodiversity Special Interest Group of Australasian Society of Developmental Paediatrics (ASDP) — Inquiry into the Thriving Kids initiative

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3rd October 2025

House Standing Committee on Health, Aged Care and Disability Parliament of Australia

Dear Sir/ Madam, Re: Submission for Terms of Reference for the Thriving Kids Initiative By Neurodiversity Special Interest Group (ND SIG) members of Australasian Society of Developmental Paediatrics (ASDP)

We are a collective of paediatricians and medical doctors who are either neurodivergent ourselves or parents of neurodivergent children. This combination of professional expertise and lived experience gives us a unique and powerful perspective on what truly constitutes safe, evidence-based, and neuroaffirming supports and therapies for children. We urge policymakers to give our input substantial weight as our group brings an unparalleled perspective. We would like to see this reform genuinely meet the needs of the children and families they are meant to serve.

We have outlined both significant concerns and risks, and key elements we strongly endorse, opportunities and positives that can come out of this process. This reform, first and foremost, must not harm children. Please ensure the new programs are implemented in a way that protects vulnerable families, preserves access to essential supports, and upholds the dignity and rights of neurodivergent children.

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Submission for Terms of Reference for the Thriving Kids Initiative By Neurodiversity Special Interest Group (ND SIG) members of Australasian Society of Developmental Paediatrics (ASDP)

We are a collective of paediatricians and medical doctors who are either neurodivergent ourselves or parents of neurodivergent children. This combination of professional expertise and lived experience gives us a unique and powerful perspective on what truly constitutes safe, evidence-based, and neuroaffirming supports and therapies for children.

In response to Minister Mark Butler’s NDIS reform announcement on 20 August 2025, we have outlined both significant concerns, key elements we strongly endorse and positives that can come out of this process. This reform, first and foremost, must not harm children. Please ensure the new programs are implemented in a way that protects vulnerable families, preserves access to essential supports, and upholds the dignity and rights of neurodivergent children.

We urge policymakers to give our input substantial weight. Our group brings unparalleled perspective - grounded in clinical knowledge and the real-world lived experiences of neurodivergent families. We are committed to assisting in any way to ensure that this reform genuinely meets the needs of the children and families they are meant to serve.

This document is authored by and represented the voices of:

  • JN: Dr Justine Chen Ti Noble, MED0001605514, NSW
  • ZA: Dr Zayna-Selena Adamu, MED0002008471, WA
  • KC: Dr Karly Casamento, MED0001795230, NSW
  • KE: Dr. Kareena-Anne Easton, MED000199376, WA
  • MC: Dr Michele Wen-Chien Campbell, MED0001160025, VIC
  • AM: Dr Andrea McGlade, MED0000950896, QLD
  • PB: Dr Phyllis Nolly Bogopa, MED0001192490, NSW
  • KP: Dr Karen Proudman, MED0001142054, NSW
  • KS: Dr Ketaki Sharma, MED0001602891, NSW

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Concerns and Risks: Shared by these members:
Risk of not being neuro-affirming JN
ZA
KC
KE
MC
PB
KP
KS
Risk of inequity in the delivery of
school-based supports due to the wide
variation in the pre-existing awareness and
understanding of neurodiversity in schools.
ZA: I fear that the schools most in need of
support to meet neurodivergent needs at a
school level will be the ones least open and
receptive to the support needed to change
the culture.

JN: I fear the inequity caused by different
levels of acceptance, adherence,
understanding and attitudes of staff leading to
variable implementations of school-based
supports

KC
KE
MC
PB
KP
Risk that masking and pathological demand
avoidance (PDA) will not be recognised or
supported appropriately with the move
towards centralised, rather than
individualised, support.
ZA: Currently, parents can research and seek
providers who they know understand these
profiles to ensure their children receive the
right support. I fear that unless the centralised
providers are carefully selected to understand
these profiles, these children will fall through
the cracks and be unsupported or even
harmed by the wrong type of support.

JN
KC
KE
MC
PB
Concerns and Risks: Shared by these members:
KP
Risk that children who mask at school will not
be recognised as needing support, or if they
are offered support, they are unlikely to
engage with it authentically in the setting
where they are used to masking because
they need to.
ZA
JN
KC
MC
PB
KP
KS
Risk of harmful physically or emotionally
unsafe childcare environments due to low
standards of care in these settings. This
comes with risk of support not provided for
children who need them.
AM: Careful consideration regarding the
childcare environments to ensure they
provide safe, high quality and responsive
care for all children. Foundational supports
delivered in environments where there is low
quality of care are counterproductive. Thus
foundational support needs to be
implemented alongside significant reform of
the childcare sector to raise standards across
the sector. There needs to be increased
investment in staffing, higher staff ratios
(including removing the ‘under the roof ratio’),
and increased upskilling for childcare workers
to have a better understanding of the
presentation of developmental and regulation
disorders in early childhood. Only then can
the children who need help be accurately
identified, and appropriate and responsive
developmental care provided.

JN
ZA
KP
KC
Risk of lack of appropriate and essential
sensory protective considerations in
childhood environments.
AM: Neuroaffirming care means making
childhood environments more supportive of
the sensory needs of all children, including
the right to freely access quiet spaces as
required, not spend long periods of time with
limited to no capacity to move away from
noisy and visually busy environments, and
opportunities for movement.
JN
ZA
PB
KP
KS
KC

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Concerns and Risks: Shared by these members:
There is a risk that, without careful planning
and focus on improving local services in
regional, remote or otherwise disadvantaged
areas, the move to develop and build on
existing community services may increase
rather than reduce inequity in these areas.
ZA
JN
KC
MC
AM
PB
KP
KC
Transition between preschool/childcare to
primary school then primary to high school
will be additionally difficult for neurodivergent
children if all of their therapists are also
changed. There will need to be smooth
transition planning built into the system.
KC
ZA
MC
JN
PB
KP
KS
Risk that children with working parents will
miss out on access if therapies are only
offered during normal office hours and the
children attend full-time childcare, unless
these services are also in-reach to childcare
centres.
KE
MC
PB
ZA
KP
KS
Close monitoring of therapists/programs is
essential, as entire cohorts of children will be
disadvantaged if service provision is not gold
standard at all sites. This concern could be
mitigated by the ability for families to
anonymously feedback concerns about
service provision standards and separate
overseeing bodies to review these concerns
and action in a timely manner.
KE
MC
JN
ZA
PB
KP
KC
For years, we have emphasised the
importance of early intervention, with ECEI
equated to early therapy with an allied health
MC
JN
PB

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Concerns and Risks: Shared by these members:
focus. There needs to be clear messaging
and strategic programming to ensure that
families of children who are moved to
Thriving Kids do not feel they are missing out
or are being provided lesser levels/quality of
care.
ZA: There needs to be clearer messaging
that the goals of early intervention should be
on sensory accommodations, emotional
regulation support, and increasing
understanding and acceptance, rather than
trying to change the child to seem more
neurotypical.

KC
KP
Success of cross-sectoral collaborations
needs to be backed up by sustainable
funding from multiple sources on federal and
state levels, across portfolios, with regular
stake-holder inputs and evaluations to
improve services. There is a clear
intersection of health, disability, education
and community-based resources that need to
be accessed for this to work equitably,
effectively and sustainably over time.
MC
JN
ZA
PB
KP
KC
Community-based supports need to have the
flexibility to provide universal health coverage
as well as more tailored and inclusive support
for individual needs.
MC: There is currently a general lack of
support for kids who are high functioning
developmentally (e.g. language and cognitive
skills) but very emotionally volatile and
socially anxious. They do not always do well
in groups and are opting out of the
mainstream school environment.

JN
ZA
PB
KP
KC
Concern about diagnosis-based
discrimination.
PB
MC: For example, ADHD and learning
difficulties, or sensory processing disorder
without autism are currently not NDIS funded.
Will they be supported under Thriving Kids at
their level of need?
KC
JN: This is already an issue currently. The
ideal is to provide support to each child as

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Concerns and Risks: Shared by these members:
soon as their needs are observed at the
ground level by parents and
educators/teachers, rather than having
children wait for further assessments for
diagnosis to allow them to start getting
support. This delay is harmful to the children’s
development.

ZA: It is specified in the DSM-5-TR that: “The
descriptive severity categories should not be
used to determine eligibility for and provision
of services; these can only be developed at
an individual level and through discussion of
personal priorities and targets“. So, these
levels should not be used to determine NDIS
eligibility.

KP
KC
Isolation of family from therapeutic
environments - childcare, preschool, schools.
Parents need to be involved so that they can
understand their child’s developmental needs
in that setting but also to be able to apply
therapeutic strategies across environments,
including home.
AM
JN
ZA
PB
KP
KC
Consideration on how support will be
provided to children not attending childcare.
PB
ZA
JN
KP
KC - I work in an area with many vulnerable
families. There are existing barriers to
accessing childcare including financial,
cultural barriers and availability of positions
particularly in rural and remote areas. If
access to early intervention therapy were
linked to accessing childcare then these
vulnerable children would face additional
disadvantage.

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Positives and Opportunities: Shared by these members:
Services are provided in the child’s immediate
environment
JN
ZA
KC
KE
MC
PB
Potential for more therapies provided to
groups of like-minded local children which
would be more cost effective and go further
towards bringing together local communities
of neurodivergent families for peer support
and to celebrate neurodivergent social skills.
KC
ZA
MC
JN
PB
Opportunity to transform environments, such
as schools, to be neurodiversity-affirming and
better meet the needs of all children,
including those with diagnosed or
undiagnosed neurodivergence.
ZA
KC
KE
JN
PB
Opportunity to reshape the delivery of
services to ensure they are
neurodiversity-affirming, co-designed and
more equitable. These goals need to be
centred in the implementation and
development of this reform.
ZA
PB
KC: More neuroaffirming education for
educators should be built into the model of
care

KE: Regular upskilling of educators and
assistants should be essential

JN
Opportunity for therapy supports becoming
more multidisciplinary. Currently, children
often see their therapists individually often at
different services and it is difficult for the
whole team to communicate and work
together; multidisciplinary meetings are rare
in the private space due to logistical issues
and lack of care coordinators. With therapists
based at education centres, there is more
opportunity for collaboration and joint therapy
KC
ZA
KE: Additional opportunity/funding for
developmental paediatricians to enter this
space and optimise care for disadvantaged
children would be incredibly valuable for
families and communities.

MC
JN

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Positives and Opportunities: Shared by these members:
sessions and interdisciplinary communication
which will improve outcomes for children.
PB
Opportunity to take the Australian national
curriculum out of Preparation/Kindergarten
year, as this is a significant stressor for a
large proportion of children, especially boys.
AM: The expectations in the year’s curriculum
are frequently not developmentally
appropriate for this group of children.
Mandating that they meet these expectations
attracts unnecessary therapeutic services
engagement.

ZA
Potential to reduce unnecessary costs of
privately managed services and
administration costs, to be more cost-effective
whilst maintaining adequate support.
ZA
KE
PB
KC: Due to the model of multiple small
businesses that cover their own running
costs, cost of individual therapy sessions has
risen which is a significant barrier for seeking
help for those who are not NDIS funded.
Hopefully with more centralised care, therapy
provision will be more equitable.

JN
Opportunity to provide access to new high
quality, evidence-based parenting programs
for children with developmental disabilities.
AM: I would like to put forward a current
evidence-based program that sits outside the
usual Triple P/COS parenting: Parenting with
Acceptance and Commitment Therapy -
Online program (PACT online), which is
currently being trialled in a large RCT and is
readily available for dissemination.
KC
ZA
PB
Opportunity to separate the reasons for
seeking diagnosis (self-understanding, sense
of identity and self-acceptance) from support
needs, which can be delivered independently
of the family’s ability or readiness to assess
assessment/diagnosis.
ZA
KC
JN

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Positives and Opportunities: Shared by these members:
Opportunity to capture, in transdisciplinary,
cross-sectional ways, the impact of rising
stress in childhood, and closely monitor
outcomes with this shift to foundational
support with this reform.
AM
ZA
Invaluable and unmissable opportunity for
adequate data collection on the progress of
children’s development, the impact of the
transition, ongoing provision of foundational
support, and beyond.
AM: There is a key opportunity here to use
data linkage of key datasets, such as
childcare attendance, preschool/kinder
attendance, applications for Inclusion Support
Program in the early childhood education
sector, AEDC data, NDIS datasets, and
particularly, education. Key education data
would include information from NCCD and
disciplinary data by school year, as children
with disabilities are significantly
over-represented in disciplinary actions at
school.

JN: Individuals with disabilities are also
significantly over-represented in the justice
system. Data linkage from the justice system
with the above data would be illuminating and
instructive

ZA

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